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Re: DC is staffed by Goddamn morons!

Postby Akitsu » Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:53 pm

The word "everyone" was counterbalanced with the term "to some extent". Of course this is just my typical writing style, and not meant to be as all encompassing as you're taking it... but quite understandable.

My point was, the very nature of collection... be it cards, comics, string beans shaped like Elvis, etc... is to seek out things you enjoy. With comics though, a lot of it is ingrained in the culture. We all know the chances of landing a truly rare comic is next to impossible, but I doubt there's anyone here who'd actively turn down owning one. Even if you never plan on cashing in, there's a certain pride to having that original Optimus Prime, or Green Lantern Number One, or entire lot of Garbage Pail Kids series 1 cards.

Even if you're only in it for the story, there's value in owning the start of something. Whether it's that cool villain who only appeared in shadow on the last page of an issue, or a decision that later on came to bite our hero on the ass 30 issues later... you get a sense of satisfaction knowing you own it. You were there... you read it... you can pull that book out of the box and point it out to people if you so choose.

All of this is speculation. There's never a guarantee when it comes to comics. Never a "sure thing". The kind of speculator you're talking about is the crazy 90's "buy it all and hope something is worth moneys!" speculation. I'm talking about the speculator who holds onto something they love for years in the hopes it pays off, story wise, money wise, or even just on a personal level nobody else can understand.

Every collector is a speculator to some extent. Even if it's just speculation that the current story you're reading will have a good conclusion, or lead to a more interesting story down the line... it's still speculation.

Let's face it... if you weren't a collector you'd just buy comics and throw them in the trash when you were done reading it. People do it with magazines, newspapers, and even (blasphemous... I know) books from time to time... but comics? Not often. Comics go in a box, preferably with a plastic cover and a backing board. grin2

And yes Corvus, I too enjoy having the tactile feel of a real book. Digi-comics are a good choice for people who don't have the room for a comic collection, don't want to blemish their physical copies, or now that they're day one... people who couldn't land that issue they're desperate to read RIGHT NOW (probably at work no less). That said, whipping out your digi-copy of the first appearance of Thor has a lot less impact than if you had an actual physical copy.
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Re: DC is staffed by Goddamn morons!

Postby ^o^CORVUS^o^ » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:15 pm

Actually, it seems that backing boards aren't a good idea unless they are marked acid-free.

Those bastards and their comic-eating acid-filled backer boards! :D

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Re: DC is staffed by Goddamn morons!

Postby Akitsu » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:29 pm

Oh, don't get me started on that... lol. Acid free boxes, boards, bags... a real shame a lot of my collection is prematurely yellow thanks to poor materials bought in the 90's.
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Re: DC is staffed by Goddamn morons!

Postby ^o^CORVUS^o^ » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:53 pm

I feel that particular brand of pain.

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Re: DC is staffed by Goddamn morons!

Postby Dusty » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:42 pm

So yeah, it's not a reboot. What it is exactly I don't know, but the Green Lantern info makes it plain enough that things are not going back to square one across the board. I suspect will get similar information about Batman soon.
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Re: DC is staffed by Goddamn morons!

Postby Maxx » Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:31 pm

Yeah...I'd agree with you about this not being a bad idea.

If I didn't keep seeing the new covers their releasing.

It's good buzz, but the product all looks like shit.
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Re: DC is staffed by Goddamn morons!

Postby LLcruize » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:37 pm

In an age when most all media is available digitally, I still must have my books, music, movies and comics in physical form.
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Re: DC is staffed by Goddamn morons!

Postby Dusty » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:19 pm

Maxx wrote:Yeah...I'd agree with you about this not being a bad idea.

If I didn't keep seeing the new covers their releasing.

It's good buzz, but the product all looks like shit.


Scott Lobdell on so much stuff is troubling, as are a lot of the relative unknown guys. I'm not sure the creative teams overall are worse than they were before, but they don't really strike me as better. The new things I'm excited for so far are Johns' Justice League and Aquaman, Simone's Batgirl, Azzarello's Wonder Woman, and (if it's true) Grant Morrison's Superman.
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Re: DC is staffed by Goddamn morons!

Postby Rust » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:42 pm

While I have little investment in comics in general these days (And DC only via the DCAU and the individual continuity movie releases), these changes and alterations simply serve no purpose in my eyes.

The Gutters actually addresses one of my principal concerns

Really, I feel continuity reboots (or even soft reboots like this seems to be) are a step backward rather then forward for comics. I can understand not wanting to bog a book down in continuity, but they had a real easy way of handling that when I was young.

It was called Editor's Notes. I miss those.
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Re: DC is staffed by Goddamn morons!

Postby Dusty » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:51 pm

Rust wrote:Really, I feel continuity reboots (or even soft reboots like this seems to be) are a step backward rather then forward for comics.


I'm still yet to see something in the info we've gotten so far that says "reboot" of any kind.
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Re: DC is staffed by Goddamn morons!

Postby Rust » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:19 am

The blurb for the Teen Titans seems to imply none of them have met before:

Tim Drake is forced to step out from behind his keyboard when an international organization seeks to capture or kill super-powered teenagers. As Red Robin, he must team up with the mysterious and belligerent powerhouse thief known as Wonder Girl and a hyperactive speedster calling himself Kid Flash
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Re: DC is staffed by Goddamn morons!

Postby Maxx » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:24 am

Dusty wrote:Scott Lobdell on so much stuff is troubling, as are a lot of the relative unknown guys. I'm not sure the creative teams overall are worse than they were before, but they don't really strike me as better. The new things I'm excited for so far are Johns' Justice League and Aquaman, Simone's Batgirl, Azzarello's Wonder Woman, and (if it's true) Grant Morrison's Superman.


Azzarello's Wonder Woman should be a pretty good time.

Simone's Batgirl will be surrogate birds of prey, so that's good.

and I love Morrison forever, so yeah I'll agree with you there.

BUT

I feel like Johns has lost it. JSA was pretty awesome and his initial GL stuff was good, but lately I feel like he's kinda floundering for story ideas.
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Re: DC is staffed by Goddamn morons!

Postby Dusty » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:40 am

Maxx wrote:I feel like Johns has lost it. JSA was pretty awesome and his initial GL stuff was good, but lately I feel like he's kinda floundering for story ideas.


I haven't been loving War of the Green Lanterns, and I think everyone would agree his Barry Allen Flash run was fairly mediocre, but the guy's track record is too good for me not to be excited about him finally taking on the Justice League, and he showed in Brightest Day he's got a better grasp of Aquaman than anyone this side of Peter David.
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Re: DC is staffed by Goddamn morons!

Postby ^o^CORVUS^o^ » Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:53 pm

Aaaaand they gave Rob Leifeld a new "Hawk and Dove" title.

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Re: DC is staffed by Goddamn morons!

Postby Rust » Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:07 pm

Well, at the very least it's nice to know he still gets work.

Really, I'll take Leifeld over Pat Lee any day of the week.
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